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« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2011, 09:22:13 PM » |
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We did not use a queen excluder on the hives that my granddad and dad had on the farm, and did not have any problem with the queens laying eggs all over the frames, the reason that a queen will lay eggs in the honey supers, only occurs when the brood box is full, contaminated with pest, or the wax/comb is very old.
Keeping a extra brood box available and checking the hive is a management technique, the queen excluder came about as a result of commercial honey production operations who did not want any baby bee parts tainting the honey as a result of spinning the honey out of the comb using a power honey extractor.
If your are going to be cutting up the comb by hand and putting int in jars, this should not be a problem even if you do get a occassional baby bee or two in the honey super.
Regardless of what you have been told, the queen is very deliberate and systematic about her egg laying habits and stays in the brood chamber/section, which is why the brood box is 9 + inches deep as compared to the honey super in the Langstron/Dadant Vertical Hive. In the vertical hive like the Tanzanian Top Bar Hive, whe will take up residence in the end of the hive and fill about 6 frames/bars of eggs.
This is just from experience , but is also supported by research from the old country bee keepers.
So in the famous words of Charlied Papazian "Dont Worry , Have a HomeBrew!"
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BeerDaddy
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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2011, 09:27:22 PM » |
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Sorry, i meant to say "Horizontal" hives like the Tanzanian Top Bar Hive the queen lays eggs starting at the end of the hive!
The editor apoligizes for the error and any inconvience this may have caused!
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BeerDaddy
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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2011, 09:36:09 PM » |
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Yippie Kia Aye, my wife just brought me the mail and my License from the Texas Apiary Service came in, I am now a "Licensed Texas Bee Removal" expert, i can now start filling up my 2 hives "Corrrection" 3 hives, i built another horizontal Tanzanian Top Bar Hive with another 28 frames/bars.
WITH BEE SWARMS, to bad i am a type 1 diabetic, oooh well, i will just have to give away the honey, and content myself with a huge garden harvest!
Anybody like free honey!!!!!!!!
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BeerDaddy
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« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2011, 09:41:29 PM » |
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oh, and did i mention that your can build the Top Bar Hives for almost FREE, using salvaged lumber and angle iron from the country recycle center!
FREE, just jump in the old truck, and get some junk!
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BeerDaddy
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« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2011, 09:53:37 PM » |
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If you want to build some real cool hive stands, like mine go to Saul Creek Apairy and check out the hive stands they build and sell, but being poor or "A Tight Wad" i just went to the country recycle center and got my angle iron for "FREE"!
oh, sorry it just slipped out again, i promise it wont happen again!
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BeerDaddy
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« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2011, 10:02:14 PM » |
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Hey johnny-max, when you need another bee swarm/hive, call me i am a "Licensed Texas Bee Removal" expert, and i can get you bee colonies for FREE!
Dang Nab It, i did it again with the free use of the word FREE!
If i dont stop it, ya'll going to think i a guberment socialist!
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Johnny-Max
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« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2011, 10:17:59 PM » |
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I was given the PDF book FREE on top-bar hives as a support brigade member of the TSP a couple of years ago. I did lots of research and decided to go with the traditional hive boxes instead of building one for FREE. The reason is there are so many People who have had bees in the past, I put the word out and got a bunch of boxes, like you say Beer Daddy "FREE" all I had to do was paint them and slide in the foundations  I splurged since everything was free and used the whole foundation, but I could have just bought one or two foundations and sliced them into stripes and just put a strip of foundation in the top, or I could have done it with a thin strip of wood too. I really wanted to use whole foundations with wire reienforcing, because I will get a spinner, or make one. I have several plans for one. I decided to go with the accepted FREE commercial setup as I plan on expanding and "maybe" even shipping some hived to California to the almond farms in the future. You have to have standard equipment to have that option. And they pay a Freekin CrAzY amount to use your bees, you have to build pallets and put your bees stacked on the pallet and truck them there. They use your bees to pollinate the almonds and then ship them back, but when you get your bees back they are wore out and you need to build them back up. If you build up enough hives it is common to clear $50,000 I will also use the Queen excluder, just in case of some of the reasons you mentioned causes the Queen to lay eggs in "MY" upper comb, But the top bar system is great for the hobby beekeeper or like you, who really just want pollinators. Oh Yea! any FREE bees are greatly appreciated!  |
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BeerDaddy
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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2011, 10:42:59 PM » |
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Dang, I think there is a Free Floating Virus in the air giving everyone a case of the Free Flu!
After i get my three hive's populated with bee's, any swarms i catch after that you can have for FREE!
But, you will have to come and get them, i will put them in a 3 Frame NUC Box as that will give you a week or two to come and get them before it gets too crowed!
I will be sending samples of each swarm to Texas A&M and they will let me know if the swarm is Afrcanized, any "Killer Bee" swarms i can keep but by state law i am NOT allow to give away or sell!
I have to send in with the bee sample a form stating where i captured the swarm and where i will be setting the swarm at!
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Johnny-Max
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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2011, 10:51:59 PM » |
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That's KILLER MAN!  |
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BeerDaddy
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« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2011, 01:35:43 AM » |
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This is the email i sent out to every police, fire, water department, and parks department in Montgomery County!
Hope it gets some responses, i am going to take a flyer with the same wording to the fire houses, utility offices, police departments, real estate offices, parks maintenance departments, and apartment complex management offices. If i left out any that you guys can think of let me know!
Bee Friendly Bee Removal Service
***** FREE HONEY BEE REMOVAL *****
Licensed by the TAIS - Texas Apairy Inspection Service, local bee keeper will remove honey bee's for free and relocate the swarm to his bee operation.
Dont kill the bee's, relocate them so that they can continue to do the very important work of pollination which provides food for you and me. Did you know that bee's all over the world are in danger of disappearing due to CCD - Colony Collapse Disorder and that without bee's we would not have most of the fruits and veggies that we enjoy today.
Do your part to help save the bee's and make a better place for you, me and the bee's..
Call 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
NAME - PHONE NUMBER
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Ggirl
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« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2011, 08:02:45 AM » |
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It's getting to be that time of year. You should be hearing something soon my friend!!
We just had a a bunch of bees trying to get under out house the other day, but it wasn't a a swarm. Not a big ball or anything. We thought they were wild bees at first. So we quickly go a box with some comb in a little honey , some lemongrass oil, and some stuff he feeds them - sugar water and herbs he cooks up. Boy they came out from under the house and into that hive like well "bees to honey". but in a couple of hours they disappeared. LOL like bad guests eat and leave. At least we got them out from under the house. It's strange they wanted under there too because our house is sealed up really well. They found a little place on one of the vent thingys they could get in. 2 days later we had a huge storm. It actually broke an oak tree about 12 feet in diameter. The wind was so loud it woke me up. An my house is pretty sound proof. Can't even hear a gunshot outside. Maybe those bees knew something!!! Hmmmmm!!!
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BeerDaddy
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« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2011, 02:25:36 PM » |
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Ggirl made a good point, has anybody had problems with keeping "Wild Swarms" in the hive after a they have been introduced into it.
On the farm we only caught a swarm on the rare occasion when one of our "Domestic European" hives would swarm because of a missed queen cell. My granddad said a hive that swarms is from a lazy beekeeper, because of not increasing the hive broodbox, honey supers or not removing queen cells during peak nectar flow season.
The wild swarms "Feral" are not something i have had any experience with!
With only one large honey bee operation here in Spring, Texas i expect that what i will be catching most of will be feral /wild bee's!
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Ggirl
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« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2011, 04:20:05 PM » |
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Those bees are back ike abunch of vagabonds. They don't look like ours. and they don't look like a swarm. Not big enough and no Queen. Plus our bees have plenty of room! Maybe "scout" bees?
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« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2011, 11:42:17 PM » |
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Sorry, when your on Vicadan for the pain, the childish behavior gets out!
The Editor wishes to apologize for this grievous mistake and will rectify it following a lengthy but useless investigation!
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